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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 19, 2012 3:37pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

Interesting topic. Clearly there is a disconnect between people who are fans and people who are purchasing the music. The Grateful Dead's FaceBook page has been "liked" over 1.1 million times, yet they could not sell 12,000 subscriptions for Dave's Picks. Volume 1 one went on sale yesterday and they also announced what the Volume 2 release will be (7/31/74). I am sure they did the latter with the hope they could sell a few more subscriptions. I always thought the reason they put the limited release on these were to generate false demand for the subscriptions. They knew they would never sell out, they just wanted the money for the years' releases up front. That might work for the EuroBox but not for 4 shows released over 12 months.

What i think this points to is that while the sales for Grateful Dead music are not actually very good, as long as sites like this exist there will be lots of fans who will "like" them at FaceBook or listen to GD channels on internet or satellite radio. I am not knocking people who don't purchase the releases, i am just saying that you can't use that as a basis to measure the fan base. Lemieux may have a little bit of a conflict of interest in discussing this.

btw i'm with you on the '66-67 release. RT seemed like the perfect vehicle for that. I would love to see how the sales for RT releases went. I would have bet that the 2-14-68 release (RT 2.2) would have been one of the most popular.

As for calling yourself a deadhead, who cares if you were too young to see a show? If you are passionate about the music thats good enough. LIA has provided the most scholarly material about the band at this and many other websites and he (i am assuming he) never saw the band either. The band has been gone so long that i don't think that should count any longer. For me it never did.

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 19, 2012 3:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

I never saw Coltrane or Duke Ellington.

I saw Miles, but it was late in the day and not what he had been.

Love all 3.

The GD are the Count Basie Orchestra of rock and roll...

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 19, 2012 4:02pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

well said.

hey i lost your email addy, if you still have mine could you drop me a line?

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Jan 20, 2012 8:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

ilovejustinbieber@gmail.com- shoot me a line.

This post was modified by bluedevil on 2012-01-20 16:23:14

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Poster: ice9freak Date: Jan 19, 2012 7:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

Does anybody else here think that Jimi Hendrix was the Eric Dolphy of electric guitar?

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Poster: Diamondhead Date: Jan 19, 2012 4:54pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

Ditto on the well said.

I actually have always thought of them as the psychedelic children of the Benny Goodman quintets.

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Poster: scotch_glass Date: Jan 19, 2012 4:09pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

"Volume 1 one went on sale yesterday and they also announced what the Volume 2 release will be (7/31/74). I am sure they did the latter with the hope they could sell a few more subscriptions. I always thought the reason they put the limited release on these were to generate false demand for the subscriptions. They knew they would never sell out, they just wanted the money for the years' releases up front."

Definitely a marketing ploy there. If I remember correctly, they didnt even announce the 1st release for the 2011 subscription before the ordering deadline.

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Poster: elbow1126 Date: Jan 19, 2012 4:14pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

You remember correctly, but the difference this time was the limited edition twist. Last time they tried to sell the releases by giving you free shipping and a bonus disc. This time they went with an early bird price, a bonus disc and said they would only make 12,000 and they still couldn't sell them all. I am curious to see if Volume sells out now that you can purchase it separately.

btw thanks to all the people who complained about crappy cardboard packaging of RT. They went back to digipacks and raised the price 4 bucks.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Jan 19, 2012 8:26pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

You're welcome; BTW, what's a "digi-pack"?

I assume the packaging is something you won't rip apart, nor harm your precious disks?

;)

Seriously, though; I don't know the term...

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Poster: portmcgroin Date: Jan 19, 2012 9:49pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: The Future of the Grateful Dead

digipak think 1,2&3 from the vault w/cardboard cover but jewel style press with thumb on the inside vs Road trips Album lets stuff it in here and scratch it. Nicer but $4 seems steep.